tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post7364159000851391212..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: Waltz with BashirGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-77826002667067077242009-01-20T09:55:00.000+13:002009-01-20T09:55:00.000+13:00I don't think I'm supposed to go along with anythi...I don't think I'm supposed to go along with anything you just wrote, especially not the "they're not civilised" bit. But I'll (uncomfortably) admit that you might have a point or two, regarding our besieged mental spaces and the disconnect between history seen as something that progresses and the local history of this particular part of the world, which does just the opposite. But of course I Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-11321898560216352672009-01-18T11:06:00.000+13:002009-01-18T11:06:00.000+13:00I don't know guys; some days I feel we should let ...I don't know guys; some days I feel we should let them (Israel and Palestine) be. Yes, it is sad, yes the Israelis ought to be ashamed of themselves, yes Hamas is not a solution for the Palestinians, blah, blah, blah. I am a bit sick of filling the already besieged space in my brain with them. Has anything ever been different? Will the conflict be resolved before the end of the world? Is it true Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-51833757541367562062009-01-16T23:19:00.000+13:002009-01-16T23:19:00.000+13:00I think one of the illusions of 1930s & 40s mo...I think one of the illusions of 1930s & 40s modernism--and one which there may well have been no way of recognising at the time--was that the terrors it documented so well were unrepeatable in terms of their horror if not their circumstances. Or perhaps it's rather the way in which the post-modern era recirculates continually the images of those modernist works (in the same way as you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-17817176075551229102009-01-16T20:56:00.000+13:002009-01-16T20:56:00.000+13:00Thank you backin15, and HB: as always. I was wonde...Thank you backin15, and HB: as always. I was wondering whether you would contribute this time (until you told me that you were going to earlier in the week, I mean), suspecting you might share my reluctance. And I'm not trying to make it about me or about us, don't get me wrong - but I've already made my point about the importance of writing through these events, so I'm glad you did. <BR/><BR/>Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-49964524944684268712009-01-16T14:00:00.000+13:002009-01-16T14:00:00.000+13:00Nos habebit humus, nos habebit humusInside the dol...<I>Nos habebit humus, nos habebit humus</I><BR/><BR/>Inside the doll is another doll,<BR/>and inside that another, and <BR/>inside that, finally, a knot of wood and metal.<BR/>Outside the doll is home, made, or a rocket.<BR/><BR/><I>Gaudeamus igitur juvenes dum sumus</I><BR/><BR/>Would you have back 1938,<BR/>the allied soldiers firing on the Munich agreement,<BR/>raze to the ground those ghosts Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-58972679485851893762009-01-14T12:26:00.000+13:002009-01-14T12:26:00.000+13:00A wonderful piece of writing Giovanni. I entirely ...A wonderful piece of writing Giovanni. I entirely understand the approach you've taken. I also feel almost mute, almost overwhelmed but guilty should I not acknowledge the significance of these events. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link to Shlaim's piece too, I'd not seen it and it's a telling commentary. Taking sides seems largely irrelevant if, as is the case for me, that support does nothing to backin15https://www.blogger.com/profile/16526191748394549650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-65281644830668843052009-01-13T20:26:00.000+13:002009-01-13T20:26:00.000+13:00I’d argue that there’s no ethics without memory, a...I’d argue that there’s no ethics without memory, and that the prospect of a peace that is negotiated on the basis of the strength of the moment - as opposed to principles of fairness, justice and redress - would be an incubator of more grievances and no lasting peace at all. My feeling is that the two sides will have to meet also on the grounds of a common sense of past, and for that we need Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.com