tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post6262201336065077210..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: Found ObjectsGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-1064829980383241012010-08-28T22:16:06.775+12:002010-08-28T22:16:06.775+12:00Sono ormai un paio di giorni che ci penso e beh… n...Sono ormai un paio di giorni che ci penso e beh… non capisco proprio cosa c'entri l'"ansia" con l'Hauntology.<br /><br />Dalla descrizione (e dagli esempi) che fai sembrerebbe più qualcosa come ontologia-degli-oggetti-a-metà-strada-tra-coscienza-e-realtà. <br /><br />Intrigante, in ogni caso.Iguana Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949162244968292957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-31147424819122258002010-08-25T18:59:53.950+12:002010-08-25T18:59:53.950+12:00Yips - "ontologia" dell'ansia, ovvia...Yips - "ontologia" dell'ansia, ovviamente. Se magari rileggessi quello che scrivo sarebbe anche meglio.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-6590456975781212282010-08-25T08:16:22.462+12:002010-08-25T08:16:22.462+12:00(oh, and George: I meant "explores", not...(oh, and George: I meant "explores", not "explored" in my penultimate comment - it's not as if Mark's done I dont' think.)Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-89697488493453839112010-08-25T08:15:20.703+12:002010-08-25T08:15:20.703+12:00Ho un vago ricordo - il libro l'ho letto 15 an...Ho un vago ricordo - il libro l'ho letto 15 anni fa ormai - che il traduttore italiano l'avesse reso con "antologia dell'ansia", ma volevo appunto spulciare il libro quando vengo in Italia e controllare.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-5011274486628134442010-08-25T01:52:18.134+12:002010-08-25T01:52:18.134+12:00Affascinante come pochi questo post.
Peccato non a...Affascinante come pochi questo post.<br />Peccato non avere a disposizione tutto il tempo che sarebbe necessario per dipanare la matassa di link ai vari blog, per non parlare di leggere i vari post (per fortuna sono pieni di figure! :-))<br /><br />Solo un dubbio. Come renderesti in italiano hauntology (che in effetti ho le idee un po' confuse…)?Iguana Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949162244968292957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-15357622199082694932010-08-24T18:09:44.599+12:002010-08-24T18:09:44.599+12:00Thank you, more to think about.Thank you, more to think about.George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-53322827720467993632010-08-24T09:41:34.907+12:002010-08-24T09:41:34.907+12:00Anyway, all of this is to say that this image took...<i>Anyway, all of this is to say that this image took me back to being 5, 6, 7, and going down to Manukau City Centre with my mum - and things being entirely different in ways that are difficult to describe. There are too many contexts.</i><br /><br />I have been saddened in recent years by the transformation of Otorohanga in the Kiwiana capital of New Zealand. If that main street hasn't Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-36447020337818710862010-08-23T23:38:36.565+12:002010-08-23T23:38:36.565+12:00Sorry, wrong second link above. Correct one.Sorry, wrong second link above. <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/movies/new-zealand-humour-americans-just-dont-get-20100819-12pot.html" rel="nofollow">Correct one</a>.George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-88868268506278051982010-08-23T23:36:25.565+12:002010-08-23T23:36:25.565+12:00Thanks Giovanni, what you've said makes a lot ...Thanks Giovanni, what you've said makes a lot of sense.<br /><br />I had perhaps one of my own experiences here, a discomfort between what "what is not really here anymore" and a recording that brings traces of that to the foreground.<br /><br />I was born in the early 1980s and lived in Otara and Mangere. That time and place saw a cultural intermarriage that was extremely specific George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-78793209942961580602010-08-22T22:17:37.346+12:002010-08-22T22:17:37.346+12:00Another, possibly spurious way I think of hauntolo...Another, possibly spurious way I think of hauntology: as Naomi Mandel has said, the Holocaust is probably the most thoroughly documented atrocity in human history. But there is a difference between knowing that it happened, knowing who did what to whom and why, and fathoming it, as it were, apprehending it as a human event with its psychological dimensions. Indeed much of Holocaust literature Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-19283449731909554712010-08-22T21:48:52.564+12:002010-08-22T21:48:52.564+12:00You may have the abilities to sketch out the diffe...<i>You may have the abilities to sketch out the difference between real and unreal in the case of your Grandfather's card, but in most cases we are entirely in that space between. I don't think that this is in any way a criticism of your post here, merely that I think that further emphasis should be given to making evident unknown truths, and unknown untruths.</i><br /><br />Or indeed theGiovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-65689872531911071452010-08-22T20:48:35.350+12:002010-08-22T20:48:35.350+12:00I hope I understand your passage correctly.
False...I hope I understand your passage correctly.<br /><br /><i>False memories of actual pasts, or real memories of pasts that failed to eventuate – like a letter that never reached its destination, or the promotional materials for a film that never got distributed – are hauntological, in that we can sense and sometimes even measure the gap between their truth and their untruth.</i><br /><br />I'm George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-49986479369287004272010-08-21T14:44:18.286+12:002010-08-21T14:44:18.286+12:00As an adult I found Red Shift even spookier, and a...As an adult I found <i>Red Shift</i> even spookier, and a thoroughly irritating instance of someone being able to convey in an entire sentence what could take me a mere twenty pages, assuming I ever managed it at all. I've been an admirer of Garner since childhood and <i>The Weirdstone of Brisingamen</i>, but somehow never got around to most of his work <i>(Elidor, The Owl Service, ThursbitchPhiliphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076353733931722397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-89798748181110964482010-08-20T14:18:13.357+12:002010-08-20T14:18:13.357+12:00Spiffing post again, young fella. Just in case you...<i>Spiffing post again, young fella. Just in case you thought noone was reading</i><br /><br />Let's face it, it's just you and me now. Anything you'd like me to talk about next week?Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-31487643534505550982010-08-20T12:42:33.551+12:002010-08-20T12:42:33.551+12:00Spiffing post again, young fella. Just in case you...Spiffing post again, young fella. Just in case you thought noone was reading :)<br />Garner is an interesting writer: as a kid I found The Owl Service very spooky. Reading it as an adult, it seemed a little too fey for my present taste, but still a good read.<br />Found Objects is a great idea- maybe a little overwhelming at first. So many pages, so many odd corners to human culture, until one isrobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-54856536632887947262010-08-17T10:53:31.495+12:002010-08-17T10:53:31.495+12:00I asked Mark to describe the inception of Found Ob...I asked Mark to describe the inception of Found Objects, but I didn't find room for his response in the post itself - so here it is:<br /><br />"For some time, I've wanted to start a collective blog for finds from secondhand shops, charity shop and carboot sales, but for whatever reason I never got round to it. Then I found the two Alan Garner books, <i>The Owl Service</i> and <i>RedGiovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.com