tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post5488195822937437225..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: Signs of DiscomfortGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-62319985378684835722012-05-25T12:52:39.362+12:002012-05-25T12:52:39.362+12:00Oh bingo!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/articl...Oh bingo!<br />http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10808417Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-3751855193060882842012-05-25T12:34:08.492+12:002012-05-25T12:34:08.492+12:00I am convinced that our media is enabling the righ...I am convinced that our media is enabling the right, http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/budget-2012/6985706/English-taunts-student-protesters<br />"Finance Minister Bill English has taunted student protesters who yesterday blockaded an Auckland street saying "they need some Greeks to show them how to do it."<br />I would love to do a study on when the message commences and follow it Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-68029734630644694512012-05-25T09:45:56.696+12:002012-05-25T09:45:56.696+12:00Good point. I misread that, didn't I? I thoug...Good point. I misread that, didn't I? I though it was make the coffee, then add as much sugar.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-91009543028443714372012-05-25T08:05:56.162+12:002012-05-25T08:05:56.162+12:00Nah, one teaspoon instant coffee, one teaspoon sug...Nah, one teaspoon instant coffee, one teaspoon sugar does not equate with Turkish coffee. Methinks it has been a long time if ever, Giovanni, that you have had an instant coffee!Stephanienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-18022948738554093542012-05-23T23:49:48.184+12:002012-05-23T23:49:48.184+12:00Thank you Ben, really appreciate your words.Thank you Ben, really appreciate your words.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-44267830506119881232012-05-23T23:12:33.952+12:002012-05-23T23:12:33.952+12:00Gio, you're building an excellent community he...Gio, you're building an excellent community here. Keep it up, it's on the money every time.<br /><br />I keep feeling there's one hell of a wake up call coming to "Kiwis". Soon.Ben Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08015337296196701141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-40138360785284500582012-05-23T13:49:22.726+12:002012-05-23T13:49:22.726+12:00Thank you for this Pale Fire. I think the issue is...Thank you for this Pale Fire. I think the issue is precisely that the strategy pursued by our media is to separate feelings from the descriptive and cognitive content, structure and value - an operation carried out with surgical precision by the form of the instant poll. And interestingly when the Herald asked its readers for general comments, as opposed to a multiple choice response, this Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-79058439316895037802012-05-23T13:41:52.853+12:002012-05-23T13:41:52.853+12:00I read that article when you linked it on Facebook...I read that article when you linked it on Facebook and meant to comment there, but this is a very important point: the transformative power of language and of social and economic relations is what gets written out of these stories, except insofar as it can be presented as a vague, amorphous threat.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-63577482382653267212012-05-23T13:34:58.734+12:002012-05-23T13:34:58.734+12:00"Most think erroneously that mastering a seco..."Most think erroneously that mastering a second language ultimately leads to an ability to say the same<br /><br />and familiar stuff, but in a different set of words and sounds. But in practice, language is participating in social relations in an extremely complex world of unequals. You cannot say you have mastered a new language if you have not discovered a brand new world, and your new George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-22122129095126410182012-05-22T23:25:07.473+12:002012-05-22T23:25:07.473+12:00Really great article, although your discussion of ...Really great article, although your discussion of the politics of feeling leaves me feeling "uncomfortable". I'm not sure what else we have - after all, "discomfort" is too mild to describe what I felt after hearing Louis Crimp's remarks. And most of the feelings engaged in politics are thick concepts, in that they can't be reduced to mere goodness or badness Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-81066008359464298362012-05-22T19:54:04.447+12:002012-05-22T19:54:04.447+12:00Photo of the lovely Louis Crimp: that must be whe...Photo of the lovely Louis Crimp: that must be where the expression '(almost) one-eyed' came fromJmfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419932513102333033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-11134837671044551572012-05-22T16:26:40.779+12:002012-05-22T16:26:40.779+12:00Yes, the fact that he won't take a position hi...Yes, the fact that he won't take a position himself, but defer to the people of Nelson (if not the Waitakere Man he himself invented) is typically unnerving.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-85180194239965812292012-05-22T15:49:21.916+12:002012-05-22T15:49:21.916+12:00"If the Right set the terms of the debate the..."If the Right set the terms of the debate they shouldn't also be allowed to set the limits of analysis."<br /><br />Yes, you are right. Although I think the way in which words like tolerance and multiculturalism can be of use is that you can make them mean something other than what that ideology and strategy dictate. As we did in the particular anti-racist project that MulticulturalGiovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-39370541817533536702012-05-22T10:04:38.634+12:002012-05-22T10:04:38.634+12:00I agree the Right is setting the terms of the deba...I agree the Right is setting the terms of the debate on this, yes, and that - for the reasons you give - this is a defensive moment. (I'd choose a different emphasis were I commenting elsewhere or in a more immediately political setting). I agree also tolerance is the worse of the two. Who's doing the tolerating?<br /><br />But this also points to a problem, and one that can't be Dougalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935605945901196637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-74623915655131782482012-05-22T10:02:30.020+12:002012-05-22T10:02:30.020+12:00What is remarkable is how the reporter responded, ...What is remarkable is how the reporter responded, and how the media have framed this ACT donor. Banks has been silenced until the Budget go NZ Media and NZ On Air http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1205/S00119/strongman-mine-doco-another-disaster-at-nz-on-air.htm<br />In NZ at this time I would have thought we were way down the track on racist bigots, obviously not.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-91570671067601152412012-05-22T09:59:25.240+12:002012-05-22T09:59:25.240+12:00Interesting post, contrast it to Chris Trotter'...Interesting post, contrast it to Chris Trotter's where he equivocates severely over whether or not he tacitly endorses Crimp's views. It is couched in the language of the will of the majority, but posts like that will only add fuel to the fire.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756577987173700191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-66165389836923983892012-05-22T09:43:44.968+12:002012-05-22T09:43:44.968+12:00Equal parts sugar? It's like a mutant deranged...Equal parts sugar? It's like a mutant deranged Turkish coffee.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-36249139202717376492012-05-22T09:21:35.127+12:002012-05-22T09:21:35.127+12:00I have greater problems with the word tolerance th...I have greater problems with the word tolerance than with the word multiculturalism*, but whatever reservations or critiques I might have for those terms, it's become a lot less pressing for me to express them after Orewa, and then again after the joint declaration by Merkel and Cameron that multiculturalism has failed. No sense in pretending that the Right is not setting the terms of the Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-23084266264909767812012-05-22T09:14:28.621+12:002012-05-22T09:14:28.621+12:00This is me last night:
https://twitter.com/#!/gt...This is me last night: <br /><br />https://twitter.com/#!/gtiso/status/204513589246164992Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-21160939274779933072012-05-22T08:22:43.192+12:002012-05-22T08:22:43.192+12:00Oh, and also, on Caffe L'Affare: my granny use...Oh, and also, on Caffe L'Affare: my granny used to make us this splendid drink when we were wee, cribbed from local fashions and memories of Italian ice cream vendors in the British summers of the 1950s. It's called "cuppacino" -- equal parts instant coffee and sugar mixed through whisked hot milk. Gorgeous.Dougalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935605945901196637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-79337789069269447992012-05-22T08:20:29.221+12:002012-05-22T08:20:29.221+12:00A nice post, Giovanni, for which thanks as ever. W...A nice post, Giovanni, for which thanks as ever. What a week for reactionary gibbering. Particularly galling - although also complicated, as you acknowledge - that the racist posing around the restaurants also infects sections of the left.<br /><br />This is another reminder, too, of how limiting and distorting it is that 'multiculturalism' remains the untranscendable theoretical horizon Dougalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935605945901196637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-44347312361606817462012-05-22T07:42:36.932+12:002012-05-22T07:42:36.932+12:00Apparently unaware he was still being filmed, Mr C...Apparently unaware he was still being filmed, Mr Crimp then asked 3 News reporter Jane Luscombe whether she'd ever had sex against a tree.<br />http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10807412<br />Harman acknowledged Garner's contribution to The Nation, which is funded by New Zealand on Air.<br />http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.com