tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post4638462776407707992..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: When Marilyn met MollyGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-67614217396823824722014-03-19T11:15:17.627+13:002014-03-19T11:15:17.627+13:00I find Monroe's story quite plausible. Ulysses...I find Monroe's story quite plausible. Ulysses is hard going, but it's also beautiful in a particularly lyrical way. Even if she was a dumb blonde, the idea of her soldiering on with it isn't crazy, just as many uneducated people will tough out the Bible, a similarly difficult read, just because.<br /><br />It's the kind of book that can easily become an obsession, a bedside troveBen Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08015337296196701141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-37868144030446473762014-03-18T09:25:50.382+13:002014-03-18T09:25:50.382+13:00"I remember reading this tribute from Abbie B..."I remember reading this tribute from Abbie Bakan in an old issue of International Socialism years ago and finding it affecting"<br /><br />Thank you, that's superb.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-7096995635622534272014-03-18T09:12:28.924+13:002014-03-18T09:12:28.924+13:00"But yes, your point stands, there is no trut..."But yes, your point stands, there is no truth above this or any other text that could be established if only we could query the authors."<br /><br />In terms of truth, in my thesis I used a performative theory that suggests meaning arises from the performance between reader and poem (and sometimes from the performance of the poem investigating itself) rather than the usual idea that Sarah Jane Barnetthttp://theredroom.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-43502913152508543442014-03-18T09:03:28.652+13:002014-03-18T09:03:28.652+13:00"My work is the only ground I've ever had..."My work is the only ground I've ever had to stand on" - it's striking too how Monroe realised what she was being framed within, and worked against it so consciously, as it was happening around her.<br /><br />I remember reading this tribute from Abbie Bakan in an old issue of International Socialism years ago and finding it affecting: <br /><br />http://www.marxists.org/historyDougalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16935605945901196637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-90482638190125256592014-03-18T08:50:18.145+13:002014-03-18T08:50:18.145+13:00The internet realises that early postmodern vision...The internet realises that early postmodern vision of texts decoupled from the circumstances of their production, waiting to be given meaning to by readers. In its Retronaut version, it's a vision that seems to me to be distinctly dystopic. But yes, your point stands, there is no truth above this or any other text that could be established if only we could query the authors.<br /><br />(And Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-45221967628825472932014-03-18T08:34:32.193+13:002014-03-18T08:34:32.193+13:00Beautiful, Giovanni. I've been thinking a lot ...Beautiful, Giovanni. I've been thinking a lot about the idea, as you put it, that "there is no definitive truth available to us." A science scholar friend of mine commented that they didn't understand how literary criticism could work because it, unlike science, couldn't come to a definitive truth (with all the negative implications that held for the relevance of my PhD; I Sarah Jane Barnetthttp://theredroom.orgnoreply@blogger.com