tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post400675801266669788..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: PosterousGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-78830591417008490072011-11-24T11:56:52.922+13:002011-11-24T11:56:52.922+13:00I had real hope after seeing Labour's election...I had real hope after seeing Labour's election ad/launch: despite its problems, it seemed to me as though they were promising to launch a bold campaign in which they would perform a structural analysis of post-Rogernomics NZ. I really had some hope that they were going to connect to the glories of Labour's past, to the politics of Michael Joseph Savage rather than Roger Douglas.<br /><br AHDhttp://www.keaandcattle.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-16175026120324357242011-11-23T22:20:07.186+13:002011-11-23T22:20:07.186+13:00The others deserve comment, I might get to that......The others deserve comment, I might get to that...George Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-52217051416750571922011-11-23T14:26:38.464+13:002011-11-23T14:26:38.464+13:00thaumaturgic! classic!thaumaturgic! classic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-87112191882150324142011-11-22T12:59:25.690+13:002011-11-22T12:59:25.690+13:00That's what I mean - reading that as a straigh...That's what I mean - reading that as a straight signifier of inclusion seems a little problematic to me.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-9225050930145621022011-11-22T11:49:09.022+13:002011-11-22T11:49:09.022+13:00That packs a whole lot of meaning in the 2011 chil...<i>That packs a whole lot of meaning in the 2011 child having a darker skin than the 2008 child.</i><br /><br />You're <i>reading</i> a whole lot of meaning into political posters. Now this is your speciality not mine, but I'd say at that depth the ethnicity of the child is worth unpacking.James Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11459885200603545823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-65060851542233451172011-11-22T11:35:47.903+13:002011-11-22T11:35:47.903+13:00That packs a whole lot of meaning in the 2011 chi...That packs a whole lot of meaning in the 2011 child having a darker skin than the 2008 child. I also note that while he does look like he might be Maori or at any rate Polynesian, his family doesn't, and there are no cultural markers outside of a generic Newzealandness (a family frolicking by the river).Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-29773380114686441572011-11-22T11:26:59.197+13:002011-11-22T11:26:59.197+13:00where do the Green posters show an inclusive socie...<i>where do the Green posters show an inclusive society? </i><br /><br />It can be argued that a young Maori child who happy and apparently healthy speaks that much, and that the obvious play on words about a society that looks beyond monetary gains to the things that actually matter, is an inclusive one. <br /><br />Those are the ideas that lie behind the billboards, how well they communicate GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756723544792981390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-56992166909019275232011-11-22T10:07:55.144+13:002011-11-22T10:07:55.144+13:00They avoid policy, but speak messages very clearly...<i>They avoid policy, but speak messages very clearly. Kids, rivers, jobs, and an inclusive society. Devoid of direct slogans or policy planks, but heavy with symbolic meaning. Is this a bad thing?</i><br /><br />I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, nor that the old Labour posters I have shown are any less loaded or any more transparent, but... where do the Green posters show an Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-54340125631817020412011-11-22T09:55:24.723+13:002011-11-22T09:55:24.723+13:00I've put up about 120 of the Greens 'windm...I've put up about 120 of the Greens 'windmills' billboard, and about 40 of 'stream' (as they're known to the campaign team). I've also put a number of He Whenua Tonui (the land prospers), the Maori language iteration of stream. So I've had a little time to think about them.<br /><br />They avoid policy, but speak messages very clearly. Kids, rivers, jobs, and an George Dnoreply@blogger.com