tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post3169825445103867090..comments2024-03-16T21:03:05.280+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: 2012, 2025Giovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-39356536904196951302009-12-20T17:25:03.230+13:002009-12-20T17:25:03.230+13:00capitalism EATS itself.capitalism EATS itself.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372125775969117127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-27908226108270407032009-12-19T20:33:13.684+13:002009-12-19T20:33:13.684+13:00Splendid! And look, Megan has contributed backpoem...Splendid! And look, Megan has contributed backpoems (as it were) for the last three posts, that is to say <a href="http://bat-bean-beam.blogspot.com/2009/11/truth-comes-to-aotearoa.html?showComment=1261202297765#c6819097074389799068" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://bat-bean-beam.blogspot.com/2009/11/in-shadow-of-no-towers.html?showComment=1261202894478#c8774937226488580209" rel="nofollowGiovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-32350926102115423042009-12-19T20:09:26.976+13:002009-12-19T20:09:26.976+13:00Even better. When the financial apocalypse comes,...Even better. When the financial apocalypse comes, it will be just me and my eldest dog fighting for our credit rating on Salisbury Plain. (My husband will have to stay home with the other dogs.)Megan Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584562106579704547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-50825219407150335992009-12-19T20:04:09.055+13:002009-12-19T20:04:09.055+13:00Le Mortgage d'ArthurLe Mortgage d'ArthurPaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-75423678568249908522009-12-19T19:50:26.200+13:002009-12-19T19:50:26.200+13:00This poem could be called either Author as Derange...This poem could be called either Author as Deranged Homeowner or perhaps, Better Not Get Pregnant Then.Megan Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584562106579704547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-72265022371092252402009-12-19T19:49:36.989+13:002009-12-19T19:49:36.989+13:00I hold out my arms to 2027
the original falling du...I hold out my arms to 2027<br />the original falling due of my first mortgage<br />which, by force of will and fixed-term payments,<br />I draw daily ever closer to me.<br /><br />2014 is the most recent date <br />to which I've tied its timely death.<br />Though the front porch sags with a rotten post<br />My debt-free house wouldn't dare fall down.<br /><br />My new husband duly takes Megan Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584562106579704547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-12765606493356713432009-12-17T19:38:57.455+13:002009-12-17T19:38:57.455+13:00< small voice > regarding 2025, the report i...< small voice > regarding 2025, the report is a smokescreen. compared to that piece of tosh, *any* move to the right by the current government will seem insignificant.<br /><br />we're dealing with a very clever bunch of people here. some of whom are in cabinet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-70373365477829843172009-12-16T09:17:43.117+13:002009-12-16T09:17:43.117+13:00Wont someone rid me of those pesky, ostensibly lef...Wont someone rid me of those pesky, ostensibly leftist commentators/critics<br /><br />wv; tousla, we're all here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-62372625003767313272009-12-16T09:08:51.056+13:002009-12-16T09:08:51.056+13:00Remember though that, at least if we're discus...<i>Remember though that, at least if we're discussing Honda's 1954 film, the events depicted in "Godzilla" had, more or less, already happened, so it's in a very different category to the other 'warning' films you mention.</i><br /><br />I was thinking about the Emmerich film, which is studiously uninterested in the history of the monster. <br /><br /><i>And this Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-47123652016056441022009-12-16T01:13:47.110+13:002009-12-16T01:13:47.110+13:00"It’s even worse when the document broadens t..."It’s even worse when the document broadens the use of the first person plural (‘we all have a stake’) to conflate its authors with ordinary New Zealanders - a phrase that is never used but in the service of evil"<br /><br />And this particular conflation can work just as much mischief in the writings of ostensibly leftist commentators/critics as it can those of the right.<br /><br />dAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-25610803078635851812009-12-16T01:10:38.456+13:002009-12-16T01:10:38.456+13:00Remember though that, at least if we're discus...Remember though that, at least if we're discussing Honda's 1954 film, the events depicted in "Godzilla" had, more or less, already happened, so it's in a very different category to the other 'warning' films you mention. <br /><br />Godzilla is looking back at shared trauma, and pointing to very real future possibilities those traumas in turn suggested.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-18783307243537501232009-12-16T00:42:28.997+13:002009-12-16T00:42:28.997+13:00@Paul
It is not 2012 yet, so much of the appeal of...<b>@Paul</b><br /><i>It is not 2012 yet, so much of the appeal of the film must be the possibility of the events depicted occurring. Come 2013 and the film will look rather silly, as will all those Cassandras.</i><br /><br />It might have been easier to mistake <i>The Day After Tomorrow</i> for an earnest assessment of the chances of a global disaster occurring in the near future, but I think Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-3734775600378404992009-12-15T14:57:53.671+13:002009-12-15T14:57:53.671+13:00@Steve
Really? Such things are never imagined in l...<b>@Steve</b><br /><i>Really? Such things are never imagined in literary fiction? </i><br /><br />Of course they are. What I am suggesting is that they are imaginings of a different order. <br />Cinema - and more specifically Hollywood cinema - sits at a highly charged junction of capitalism, where heavy manufacturing meets capital flows and the symbolic, and is firmly embedded in a material Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-6903961988223664332009-12-15T14:12:42.499+13:002009-12-15T14:12:42.499+13:00"Thus cinema emerges alone - not primarily in..."Thus cinema emerges alone - not primarily in the sense of an art, but as an industry at the heart of contemporary capital flows - in charge of representing and therefore making possible the end of the world."<br /><br />Really? Such things are never imagined in literary fiction? Cormac McCarthy's The Road and Margaret Atwood's The Year of the Flood to give two high-profile and Steve McGuigannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-22671181048256211722009-12-15T12:57:56.651+13:002009-12-15T12:57:56.651+13:002012: The crucial difference between the Deluge an...2012: The crucial difference between the Deluge and any apocalypse is that one has happened and will not happen again (God promised that) and the other might happen. It is not 2012 yet, so much of the appeal of the film must be the possibility of the events depicted occurring. Come 2013 and the film will look rather silly, as will all those Cassandras. The paintings of the Deluge will not be Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-5770415251819225292009-12-15T11:09:30.582+13:002009-12-15T11:09:30.582+13:00Heh, that would be kewl.
wv; fowee, really gleefu...Heh, that would be kewl.<br /><br />wv; fowee, really gleeful joy expression.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-7022065029950324812009-12-15T11:00:51.897+13:002009-12-15T11:00:51.897+13:00You know we're going to conk heads one of thes...You know we're going to conk heads one of these weeks, right?Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-33032048934679265192009-12-15T07:34:45.026+13:002009-12-15T07:34:45.026+13:00I bow to you.
wv; mistl; I got a little.I bow to you.<br /><br />wv; mistl; I got a little.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.com