tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post2408146368582124873..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: You Are Not a GadgetGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-52958531157868700132012-07-04T11:21:15.318+12:002012-07-04T11:21:15.318+12:00I'm pretty sure people still ride horses, but ...I'm pretty sure people still ride horses, but for enjoyment rather than need. I hope print books go the same way. As far as copyright and revenue from writing goes - that always makes my head swim. Mainly I think because copyright seems about as artificial legal concept as we could have come up with.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09769754395956800214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-70129385065496264762011-05-04T13:52:04.593+12:002011-05-04T13:52:04.593+12:00That was me above, BTW. Had been checking the offi...That was me above, BTW. Had been checking the office webmail earlier.Lyndonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622953598107216261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-59076251633441612522011-05-04T12:58:34.057+12:002011-05-04T12:58:34.057+12:00Just because I'm reminded of a story about gim...Just because I'm reminded of a story about gimmickery in print design...<br /><br />A while back in Dunedin someone, unsuccesfully as I recall, tried to start up an alternative local paper.<br /><br />The layout was sprinkled with the icons of internet stuff. I recall a link-hover pointing hand icon fairly clearly.<br /><br />They want me to click on it? Or what?<br /><br />A friend remarked Scoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220810265284038550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-84003900833445262152011-05-01T13:00:46.002+12:002011-05-01T13:00:46.002+12:00That's an interesting comparison, because hors...That's an interesting comparison, because horse-and-carts and cars could never have coexisted on the one road system, and didn't, whereas eBooks and print books likely will, and for a very long time. In fact one of the points I was trying to smuggle into the post is that most print books right now are very uninteresting objects. I hope that this will change as a result of the rival Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-50195375001164934222011-04-30T20:13:23.640+12:002011-04-30T20:13:23.640+12:00Well, the horse and cart was a basic technology, t...Well, the horse and cart was a basic technology, too. I don't see how print can compete on price or functionality, long term. You have to consider the effect of the encroachment of e on the whole print industry. There are minimum print runs, and presses are significant capital costs. Gradually the digital will replace the analogue as it did with music. So I don't see a conservative Sam Searlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735776354615062003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-36035198504205831172011-04-26T18:08:51.635+12:002011-04-26T18:08:51.635+12:00What we're getting instead is expiry dates on ...What we're getting instead is expiry dates on electronic books in libraries. <br /><br />(I wouldn't be so sure that print media are going away, it's such a basic technology. I also wouldn't bet on the long-term viability of the internet, or that ebooks will take. Possibly I've been reading the Death of Cinema too many times.)Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-72895113467684577172011-04-26T15:58:17.598+12:002011-04-26T15:58:17.598+12:00sure. What I'm talking about is people thinkin...sure. What I'm talking about is people thinking they can avoid the struggle over new media by sticking with newspapers, books, etc. Because those things are going away, like it or not. Some of my students were a bit appalled that their industry faced so many challenges and tended to seek refuge in mere denialism. But ideological production has always had these issues, they aren't new in Conhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16641887728601115959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-67465299743466457472011-04-26T10:52:53.286+12:002011-04-26T10:52:53.286+12:00"I'm not a (complete) reductionist but if..."I'm not a (complete) reductionist but if © & networks aren't the best of buddies then so much the worse for © I reckon"<br /><br />That's pragmatic enough, but I'm not sure where it leaves us. Networks are very good at facilitating the dissemination of knowledge, which is after all one of the guiding ideas behind copyright, but not as good at rewarding the creators Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-70109144841373382011-04-26T01:27:22.971+12:002011-04-26T01:27:22.971+12:00I used to tutor on epublishing @ the Whitireia pub...I used to tutor on epublishing @ the Whitireia publishing course and it was a struggle to get students to think historically about publishing and information technologies. Books are so ossified a technology that they appear as eternal forms ... as natural things. Ebook readers (which were very niche then but pretty much mainstream now) obviously WERE historical were therefore more of a worry -- Conhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16641887728601115959noreply@blogger.com