tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post2199033220842216019..comments2024-03-22T21:02:55.051+13:00Comments on Bat, Bean, Beam: A family bestiaryGiovanni Tisohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-1683157719015156242013-12-03T22:27:35.619+13:002013-12-03T22:27:35.619+13:00I agree, and so would Pier Paolo Pasolini. However...I agree, and so would Pier Paolo Pasolini. However in Italy that idea that urban modernisation was the same thing as progress in a political sense was widely shared by the Left. Aside from Pasolini, one of its main critics, as I've had several occasions of pointing out here, was an ultra-conservative writer, Giovanni Guareschi. He was born just south of the territory referred to in the post. Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-36036897532765545692013-12-03T22:23:00.488+13:002013-12-03T22:23:00.488+13:00"another, more common word for it is parochia..."another, more common word for it is parochialism"<br />An appreciation of parochial cultures doesn't equate to parochialism in my book. On the contrary, it would be far more narrow and parochial to recognise nothing but the culture that was 'forged in the industrial cities and imposed everywhere else.' National unification was historically progressive only because it Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06380244733932491322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-82024696362024980052013-12-03T21:22:20.385+13:002013-12-03T21:22:20.385+13:00“ It's interesting that strong traditions of p...“ It's interesting that strong traditions of paganism have survived so long in Italy, at the very center of Catholicism.”<br /><br />Not just in Italy, either, it was always one of the strong suits of Catholicism that it allowed the converted to hold on to some of their old deities and godlets, and to keep updating the store of legends along the old pathways – a sort of neo-paganism Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-69492318211320369712013-12-03T10:42:04.885+13:002013-12-03T10:42:04.885+13:00Oh Ben, there are many more Pakeha one's as we...Oh Ben, there are many more Pakeha one's as well. I keep a track on as many as I can from the old people. Having German ancestry helps - we be big on that stuff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-6622051914832705982013-12-03T10:39:19.922+13:002013-12-03T10:39:19.922+13:00The closest we get in NZ are taniwha, which I gues...The closest we get in NZ are taniwha, which I guess you could also call pre-Christian. It's interesting that strong traditions of paganism have survived so long in Italy, at the very center of Catholicism.Ben Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08015337296196701141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057225441101183394.post-32092046548371420412013-12-03T08:57:50.096+13:002013-12-03T08:57:50.096+13:00This post took me far, and what an end paragraph. ...This post took me far, and what an end paragraph. At present I am reading of Titian, and his time, the First Republic. Your post adds to this time for me, refining through the lens of the bestiary...a favourite subject of mine.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424066726955708314noreply@blogger.com